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Complex Rules & Layers Mastery

Dependency, characteristic-defining abilities, control/timestamp resets, and infamous interactions.

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Dependency, precisely

Within a layer, timestamp order applies unless one effect is dependent on another. Effect A depends on effect B if applying B first would change what A does, what it applies to, or whether it applies at all — and the two are in the same layer. Dependent effects wait; the effect they depend on applies first, regardless of timestamps. If effects depend on each other in a loop, dependency is ignored and timestamps decide.

Characteristic-defining abilities (CDAs)

A CDA defines a characteristic (usually P/T, color, or type) from information about the object itself, and it functions in all zones, not just the battlefield. In the layer system, P/T-defining CDAs are applied in layer 7a — before set effects, counters, and modifiers. A card that is "*/*" where * counts something is using a CDA.

Timestamps, control, and copy

An object's timestamp is set when it enters the battlefield (or when an effect starts applying). A few resets matter:

  • When a permanent changes control, it gets a new timestamp.
  • A copy effect (layer 1) sets the copiable values before anything in later layers; counters and other-layer effects then apply on top and are not copied.
  • Auras/Equipment attaching or effects beginning to apply establish new timestamps too.

A classic interaction

Humility ("All creatures lose all abilities and are 1/1") layered with an anthem is a canonical test. Humility removes abilities in layer 6 and sets P/T to 1/1 in layer 7b. An anthem like Glorious Anthem ("+1/+1") applies in layer 7d, after the set. So under Humility + Glorious Anthem, creatures are 2/2 with no abilities. The order of the layers — not the timestamps — produces the surprising result.

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Lesson test

Answer these 6 ruling questions to complete the lesson. You need 70% to pass — passing marks the lesson done and counts toward unlocking the level exam.

Humility ("all creatures lose all abilities and are 1/1") and Glorious Anthem ("creatures you control get +1/+1") are both in play, affecting your creature.

Q1. What is your creature's power and toughness?

Q2. Effect A is dependent on effect B (same layer) when:

Q3. Characteristic-defining abilities function:

Q4. When a permanent changes control, its timestamp:

Q5. If two effects in the same layer each depend on the other (a loop):

Q6. A copy effect is applied in which layer, relative to counters?

Answer every question, then submit. Pass at 70%.